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[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You're listening to the alchemical tech revolution and I am your host, Wayne McRoy. Good evening, good morning,

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_00]: wherever you are around the world. Tonight we're going to discuss spiritual alchemy and the Philosophers

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Stone. What is spiritual alchemy and how does the Philosophers Stone relate to this?

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_00]: That may be the question you have in mind and there are some researchers out there who

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_00]: tend to try to separate this notion of spiritual alchemy from the actual practice of the old hermetic

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: alliances, but they are one and the same thing and they are unified and there is a spiritualized

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_00]: version of alchemy that has to do with transmuting the human being in tonight. We're going to be

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_00]: reading from a book titled remarks upon alchemy and the alchemists indicating a method of discovering

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_00]: the true nature of her medic philosophy and showing that the search after the Philosophers Stone

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: had not for its object the discovery of an agent for the transmutation of metals being also an attempt

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_00]: to rescue from undeserved a program, the reputation of a class of extraordinary thinkers in past

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_00]: ages and that's quite a title for a book isn't it folks? You see there were many prolific writers

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: in which this book was printed and this is copyright 1857. You see men of that time were more

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_00]: learning than they are now, they were more prolific writers and readers and they had very much

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: a greater attention span than we do today. So a lot of times these book titles when you find

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_00]: some of these old books about these occult philosophies and stuff like that the titles are very

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_00]: lengthy and give you just an overview of what's covered within the book. So this was written by

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_00]: a man whose initials are EAH and I can't really make out the signature of what his name was here

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_00]: because it's faded over the course of time and this is a digitized book digitized by

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_00]: the library, new thought library association that's the stamp on the book digitized by

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_00]: internet archive in 2010. So this one didn't really come onto the internet until 2010 and of course

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: it was probably on an obscure site somewhere up until such a point. So we have

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_00]: this book and we're going to read from the preface and I'm not sure how far we'll get

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_00]: but you'll begin to understand some of the concepts and pre-saps being presented here

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_00]: because I think this is important that we need to understand that oftentimes the language of

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_00]: alchemy has this hidden meaning to it if you know how to read between the lines and it does

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: apply to the human being in a spiritual sense. So alchemy even though there are different forms

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: of alchemical science, spidgyrics being one of the more mainstreamed ones today that would be

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_00]: the alchemy of plants. There's also the alchemy that's about the transmutation of metals.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_00]: There's also the alchemy of the animal or the human being as well and largely when we're looking at

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_00]: these alchemical concepts what's hidden within these various formula that they give you

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: in the alchemical process. There's a spiritual component and it's about man

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: achieving a type of a spiritualized state. That's what the original intention

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: has always been behind it and it's hidden away in the language of allegory.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And of course you'll have people who will say and claim probably rightfully so

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_00]: that there is an actual science that can be applied to physical elements in this world

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_00]: spidgyrics being an example thereof and the metallurgy of the alchemical science relating to

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_00]: the transmutation of metals also being such a thing. And that there really is a physical thing

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: that you can make called the philosopher stone. Now there are people who make those claims

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: that these things have been done and they have access to some of this stuff and I can't dispute

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_00]: that. I really can't. I mean, I think there is something to this whole art of alchemy going way back

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: but I think the original intentions thereof have been twisted and contorted and inverted in the

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: mainstream here. We're talking largely about the misuse of alchemy against the public, against

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: the people and for purposes that don't truly align with what the ancient alchemists intended.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And when you begin to understand this, you begin to see how some of these old natural sciences

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: or occult sciences, her medic sciences, now chemical sciences, however you want to refer to

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: these older ideas, they've been misapplied against us today. They've been inverted from their original

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: context and used in a way that is contrary to the natural order of things when the original

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: intention was to work within the bounds of the natural order of things and achieve this state

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_00]: of perfection within the natural state. Now these things have been misapplied in many different ways

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_00]: in the modern era, especially in our mainstream science. What we would call science in the modern

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_00]: era or properly, scientism if you want to be more proper about it. And we see how many of these

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_00]: ideas are based in these older occult sciences but only certain aspects of them have been brought

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_00]: forward and oftentimes they're weaponized against the masses in ways that we can scarcely

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: recognize on a conscious level. Unless of course we dig deeply into these older ways of thinking

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: and then you can see the writing on the wall. Now that's the important facet of this. So we have

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_00]: this whole notion of a hidden language used in the context of alchemy and that the words

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and the symbols that they use in alchemy can be applied to mean other things and just like everything

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: else there are layers of meaning inherent in the symbols and the language that they use in alchemy

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's a matter of reading the right context into it using the right application of the hermanutical

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_00]: lens applied to it in certain ways in order to get through to what the meaning is. So we're going

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: to talk largely about what is known as spiritual alchemy or the alchemy of man here with this

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_00]: and how many of these symbols can be applied there for using this allegory type of representation.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So let's get right into the reading here we're going to read from the preface in the preface

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: written by a man named Edw Parker from Little Rock Arkansas. Let's get right into it.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: It may seem superfluous in the author of the following remarks to disclaim the purpose of

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_00]: reviving the study of alchemy or the method of teaching adopted by the alchemist.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Alchemical works stand related to moral and intellectual geography.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Someone is the skeletons of Ick the Asorai Impleasius or I are related to geology.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: They are skeletons of thought in past ages and I'm going to pause for a second before we proceed

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_00]: any further. So this is some really old ways of thinking that are being addressed here

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_00]: and how they use this allegory method to explain certain processes,

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_00]: to explain certain things in spiritual context. So we have that. It's almost

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: it relates to the hermetical of correspondence in many ways. You can apply the same

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_00]: meanings across the board to many different things. And once again, this falls upon an old

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_00]: concept known as hermetetics within theological regards, as well as other regards, where you

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_00]: can apply different layers of meaning to symbols and words being used if you know the context

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_00]: in which it's being utilized. And this is important in alchemy because when you can apply

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_00]: this standard to understand what's being expressed in the words, then you could apply this

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_00]: in the sense that it's intended. And oftentimes we lose the sight of that lens of observation

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_00]: that we need to look at this through because it does shift from time to time and from author to author.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So what do they mean when they use these different symbolic languages? It's hard to tell.

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_00]: It's very hard to decipher alchemical text if you've ever tried. You'll walk away scratching your

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_00]: head if you don't have the right context or lens of observation to look at it through.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_00]: If you can't apply this law of allegory to it, then you're going to lose the meaning.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Well let's read on. It is chiefly from this point of view that the writer of the following pages

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: submits his opinions upon alchemy to the public. He is convinced that the character of the

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_00]: alchemy and the object of their study have been almost universally misconceived. And as a matter

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_00]: fact, though of the past he thinks it is of sufficient importance to take a step in the right

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: direction for developing the true nature of the studies of that extraordinary class of thinkers.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_00]: The opinion has become almost universal that alchemy was a quote pretended science by which

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_00]: gold and silver were to be made by the trans mutation of the baser metals into these substances.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_00]: The agent of the transmutation being called the philosophers stone and quote.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Those who professed this art are supposed to have been either imposter or under a delusion created

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_00]: by imposter in Mount of Acts. This opinion has found its way into works on science and has been

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_00]: stereotyped in biographical dictionaries and in encyclopedias large and small. And in general,

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: allusions to alchemy in histories, romances and novels are of but one character and imply that

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: the professors of the art were either deluters or deluded. Or guilty of fraud or the victims of it.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to pause for a moment here folks and this is of course explaining what our modern

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_00]: mainstream conception of alchemy is. They would tell you it's an old backwards way of thinking

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_00]: it's the precursor of our modern chemistry but these people, they were either charlatans or

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: frauds or they were deceived and they were searching after something that could have no resolution

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: because there was no reality to it. Now here's the problem. Nothing could be further from the truth.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You see, there is a real science behind alchemy. It is the true science but the problem with it is

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_00]: there's a spiritual component to it that people often overlook and that we've been conditioned

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_00]: in the modern era to disregard. You see, we think, in strictly, the physical material world format

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_00]: of things in this world nowadays. That's what our modern science has handed to us. It's this

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_00]: material paradigm in which we live this age in which we live. And of course, this relates back to

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_00]: what Rudolph Steiner described as the spirit of our amount where we are only concerned with

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_00]: physical, material world things and we think only in those ways now when you apply science to this

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_00]: and you disregard an entire component of manifestation from the reality that we have, then you overlook

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: some of these old ways of thinking and in so doing you miss a lot of context and a lot of

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: important developments and a lot of natural concepts that do hold sway in this world. Now with that being said,

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_00]: let's continue with reading. It may be a hopeless task to announce a different persuasion with the

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_00]: expectation of superseding this deeply rooted prejudice but the author thinks it a duty to declare

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: the opinion he has derived from a careful reading of many alchemical volumes and in the following

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_00]: remarks he has taken for his thesis, the proposition that man was the subject of alchemy and that

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: object of the art was the perfection or at least the improvement of man going to pass for a moment

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and certainly you can make that argument and there are some people who will say,

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_00]: spiritual alchemy is a more modernized concept that there never was spiritual alchemy in the past.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Well it's always been present. It's just a matter of this context of things didn't come to

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_00]: public for front of knowledge until just recently within the past 200 years or so and that's a lot of

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_00]: the problem. So we could trace some of these alchemical procedures and processes back a long way

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_00]: and we can apply them in the strictly physical sense but it would be a mistake not to understand that

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_00]: there's a spiritual implication as well and that man himself is part of the alchemical laboratory.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So let's go ahead and we'll continue. The salvation of man has transformation from evil to good

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_00]: or his passage from a state of nature to a state of grace was symbolized under the figure of

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_00]: the transmutation of metals. Under this point of view the works of the alchemists may be regarded as

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_00]: free itases upon religious education though they may now only serve to show past opinions upon this

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_00]: important subject. The writings of the alchemists are all symbolical and under the words,

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_00]: gold, silver, lead, salt, sulfur, mercury, antimony, arsenic, orpiment, soul,

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_00]: luna, wine, acid, alcholai and a thousand other words and expressions, infinitely varied,

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_00]: may be found the opinions of the several writers upon the great questions of God, nature and man,

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: all brought into or developed from one central point which is man as the image of God and I'm

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_00]: going to pause for a moment here folks and let's not ever lose the importance of this notion of the

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_00]: image. Man is said to be made in the image of God and this is an important concept to keep in mind

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_00]: and of course if you can apply this alchemical language to the development of man,

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_00]: spiritually you can see how when you apply that lens of observation to this you can make some very

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_00]: real types of discoveries in the language given. Now they use a lot of these things as code words.

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You'll always hear sulfur, salt, mercury. These are all aspects of the alchemical process but they're

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_00]: talking about literal sulfur, salt, and mercury and that is where people get confused. With this

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_00]: they think that they're talking about these actual elements that we would recognize today as

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_00]: sulfur, salt, and mercury when in fact it's a symbol it's a stand-in for something else and it

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_00]: varies from process to process what that stands for, what they're substituting in there for that

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: but the process works the same even though the elements of the process may be different.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So these words stand in for that part of the procedure or the process and this is where it

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_00]: gets confusing when you're looking at alchemical treatises because you're not understanding

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: what's being said. It's not talking about literal sulfur so when you see that

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_00]: oftentimes people, illness can screw that and this is where oftentimes it gets into the whole

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_00]: stereotypical application of the alchemy process with people. They think that these backwards

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: chemists of the past were using the element sulfur and the using mercury and stuff like that

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_00]: in their little beakers and flasks to try to produce gold from lead and that's not what they were

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_00]: doing at all. It's a symbolic language, it's a substitute word for something else. It's part of the

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_00]: process and with each and every procedure, things change. It's different. The components are different

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_00]: depending upon which alchemical thing you're trying to produce but these substitute words are used

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_00]: to point out part of the procedure and at any rate so if we use this a lot of allegory to apply this

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_00]: to a spiritual component or concept you might not even be talking about a physical substance at

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_00]: all and that's where people miss the bow down on this. Let's read on here though.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The author is perfectly aware of the latitude of interpretation to which all symbolical

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_00]: writings are exposed and that it is possible for an undisciplined imagination to make from such

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_00]: writings anything of anything and indeed to make almost anything of nothing. He needs no

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_00]: schooling on this subject but feels himself on the contrary in a position to justify his warning

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_00]: the readers of all symbolical works that they cannot be too cautious and guarded against

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_00]: supplying from their own imaginations and afterthoughts interpretations to all such works. They should

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_00]: hold themselves absolutely upon the immovable foundation of truth and nature whereby alone they

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_00]: save themselves from misapprehensions and from the danger of being carried entirely away from

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_00]: reality into mere dreams and fictions but with the proper guards supplied by sound theory and

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_00]: a knowledge of nature it is extremely interesting and the author thinks instructive to interpret

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_00]: bygone forms of thought even in alchemical volumes in which it is quite possible that many precious

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_00]: jewels may be found though the philosopher stone be missed. It would be a useless labor to enter

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: here upon a defense of symbolic writing when nothing is more certain than that men of genius in

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_00]: all ages seemingly by a constraint of nature have fallen into it. That the sacred scriptures are

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_00]: full of it must be confessed by all who are not in a condition to read as literal truth the

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_00]: history of Robinson Carruso and of Golivars travels not that the author would institute a comparison

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_00]: between these works in the sacred writings. He only means by a reference to the revelation

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_00]: to the story of the man of ooze to the beautiful parables of the new testament etc to show

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: that teaching by way of similitude parable, fable, allegory or in one word by symbolism is as old

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_00]: as writing itself and I'm going to pause for a moment here so we can apply this law of allegory

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_00]: to these things and it's true I mean if you look in the Bible Jesus taught by way of parable

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_00]: by parable this is how you could convey meanings to people in ways that they would scarcely

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_00]: understand and plain words through the use of stories and this is what mythologies about

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_00]: myth representation it's representing an archetype these represent archetypes in the form of

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_00]: stories things people can understand based on this law of allegory and this is an important context

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_00]: to remember very important context to remember because you see when you could apply this to the

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_00]: alchemical language then you begin to understand a little bit better what's being said here

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_00]: when you could apply this through that allegorical representation it represents some type of archetypal

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: thing that's inherent in the human soul when you're applying it towards the spiritual and these

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_00]: things may not be actual physical things or they may not be factual fact-based stories

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_00]: oftentimes that we get in the form of myth but there is a core truth behind them it doesn't mean

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_00]: not true just because it may not be factually what or how it happened but it's still true and this is

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_00]: this it gets a little bit convoluted for people to understand because we're taught to think in

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_00]: this strictly material world paradigm the facts must align in order for it to be true and that's

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_00]: not necessarily the case in the spiritual context of things there are universal spiritual truths

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_00]: that under why a lot of different things but maybe we don't have a true historical account

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_00]: as in regards to some of the mythologies and stuff like that but there are cores of truth behind

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_00]: all of it and there's universal elements that undergird all of it that hold true

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_00]: and that is where in sometimes we miss the whole point because when you get somebody that

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_00]: is bent on trying to discredit or debunk a thing they will often fall back on this fallacy

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_00]: of trying to rip apart historical facts when we buy a large really don't know what our history is

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_00]: we've been told and taught things that appear in our textbooks but we don't really know

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: unless we lived through that historical period what things were truly like so people will use this

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_00]: misguided way of thinking to try to debunk these are the debunkers of the world these are the ones

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_00]: that like to try to discredit everything and they represent the straw man argument for you with these

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_00]: things now there's a lot of spiritual truths that you just could inherently know because

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_00]: you've experienced that in your life or you've seen that in your life and no but he can tell you

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_00]: otherwise that your experience is not valid but a lot of these people will try to do that

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: basing things on what they would call facts of science or facts of history when we don't have

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_00]: anything solid to stand on in that regard as far as a discrediting or debunking tool especially

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: when you are trying to apply it to something that is very much experiential very much subjective

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_00]: like the alchemical process and the alchemical sciences they're older ways of thinking and they

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_00]: transcend the bounds of our limited physical material world existence there's a spiritual component

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_00]: that's the whole key now you can't disregard that spiritual component and those debunkers of the

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: world always disregard the spiritual context or components of things because it would seem

[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: they can't quantify that appropriately enough and sometimes they just don't see and that's

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_00]: all part of the nature of alchemical itself too we're all on in different parts of our path for

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_00]: understanding these things and a lot of this either you get it or you don't and when you're not quite

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_00]: ready for it yet you're not going to get it but when you are ready then the understanding is there

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_00]: that's what makes it difficult to talk about these things because not everybody's on the same level

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_00]: not everybody's there yet not everybody's ready to accept something at a certain point in their walk

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's all part of the natural process of things that we go through we all go through this

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_00]: natural initiatory process of sorts and this is something that's been hijacked by the secret

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_00]: schools the initiation process it's supposed to be a natural thing and everybody's initiation

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: process is supposed to be different it's experiential it's subjective it's about your walk in life

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_00]: your natural walk with God in this world and we're all supposed to have a unique experience

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and what's been done is the secret society groups and the equal fraternities have taken this idea

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_00]: and they turned it into a one size fits all right in ritual that they put all of their

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_00]: members through and they call it initiation and what it is is it's a synthetic form of initiation

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: it does not align with the natural world it does not align with the alchemical path

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_00]: that is the natural path for mankind it's the inversion principle applied once again and all this

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_00]: does is instantiate more control into the hands of these dark occultists who run things in this world

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_00]: they determine your path and that's not right and this is one of the misuses of alchemy in the

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_00]: all of these things have a very philosophical bent to them so you can read between the lines

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_00]: with a lot of this stuff and you can understand some true spiritual concepts with this stuff

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_00]: but don't mistake it for your connection to God and the creator of this world

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_00]: don't mistake any of that now here's the thing knowledge is not necessarily a bad thing

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: you have all of these people in these occult fraternities and secret society groups

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_00]: they put on a pedestal this idea of knowledge or hidden knowledge, esoteric knowledge

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: no sis sometimes they call it and they think of that as a deified form they think of that

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_00]: in and of itself as a type of God and it's not that's not the the be all end all now there's

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_00]: nothing wrong with seeking knowledge and there's nothing wrong with having knowledge or acquiring knowledge

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_00]: but when you mistake that knowledge itself for God then that is a problem and that's what we try to

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: avoid with a lot of this stuff because many people misconstrui the knowledge of some of these old

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_00]: occult sciences as their connection to God and that's not the case not the case at all and in

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_00]: fact they will misuse some of this knowledge to try to achieve a pothiosis themselves and become

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: God themselves and it's a lie folks it's the great lie but many in this world have sought after

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: this inverted principle of nature to become God themselves this apotheosis and they think that through

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_00]: the acquisition of this knowledge and the use of some of these old occult sciences they could

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_00]: achieve that and they're mistaken they are not God man is not God and can never be God we are created

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: in the image of God and this is the important distinction but we can never be God and you have those

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_00]: who've misapplied this knowledge and sought to become God themselves and this is at the core and the

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_00]: heart of the transhumanist movement two day very same thing I know I sound like a broken record

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_00]: but certainly I can't emphasize that point enough what they've done is they've inverted and misapplied

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_00]: some of the old alchemical sciences turned it into our modern science shifted everything into the

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_00]: physical material world paradigm and are attempting to achieve this apotheosis themselves through the

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: transhumanist singularity and become God's in this physical material world in no uncertain terms and that's

[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_00]: for the ones at the top most levels of this power pyramid that's what they seek to do and that's what they

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_00]: think they can do and they're deceived man can never be God although he will try but it will fail

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_00]: catastrophically even if it does succeed for a time the problem is the transhumanist

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_00]: goal that they seek it's only for a select few they have no place in their new age for the

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_00]: profane and that's you and I ladies and gentlemen so that being the case they seek to use this

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_00]: guys of the promises of the good things that can be achieved through this transhumanist notion

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_00]: to suck us into supporting that and when it comes down to it all it really is

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_00]: it's a eugenics program a eugenics depopulation program by enlarge for the masses

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_00]: because only a very select few will be the beneficiaries of these of these transhumanist sciences

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_00]: that come about that they're trying to develop and that's the core behind all of it

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_00]: pro transhumanist groups have described transhumanism as eugenics without coercion

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_00]: and that is most certainly what it is they dangle the carrot before you they promise you all

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_00]: of these medical innovations they promise you immortality eternal youth all the benefits of

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_00]: being able to be the beneficiary of this transhumanist notion but they have no such intention for you

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_00]: they're going to trick you into a mass calling now what this will look like I can't say for

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_00]: certain all I could do is speculate and it would seem to me the speculation would be

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_00]: that this will be this moment of singularity where man and machine are merged into one collective

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_00]: hive mind this is what it will look like in my view from all the research I've done

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_00]: at some point the internet of thoughts will go live online and your brain through some type

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_00]: of BCI device brain computer interface will be connected to the internet and will be incorporated

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_00]: into the collective and at such point they will claim that you can upload your consciousness

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_00]: into the cloud and then you could exist in any type of a body or form that you want and

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_00]: have immortality you could exist in a digital avatar in a self-created world in the computer

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_00]: or you could upload your consciousness into some other physical body a robotic body perhaps

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_00]: a biological body and you could exist in all these different forms whenever and however you want

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_00]: to jack in and out of the matrix as you see fit and it's a lie because what it will really do

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_00]: is it will destroy your physical body to do so and I've seen the studies where they they talk

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_00]: about ways in which to do a proper appropriate brain scan it would destroy all of the natural

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_00]: tissues of the brain in the process and replace it with our official components so when this happens

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_00]: is that really you that remains is the spirit that is you does that remain as your soul does that

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_00]: remain or does that die and then there's just a facsimile of you in the machine these are the

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_00]: questions you have to ask so philosophically will it be you probably not and I think that's part of

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_00]: the great why they will try to convince you that yes they could transfer your consciousness into the

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_00]: machine because if you think about it in the strictly physical material world paradigm that's what

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_00]: they try to push to you they say that consciousness is nothing but the byproduct of the electrochemical

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_00]: activity of the brain and brain stem and if that's the case it could be equated down to little more

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_00]: than an algorithm and if it could be equated down to little more than an algorithm it could be

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: do plocated in a machine and therefore your consciousness can live on but it's not really you folks

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_00]: you see how they disregard the spiritual side the spiritual component of things that's not the true

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_00]: nature of what consciousness really is but if they could convince enough people that that's all it is

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_00]: then these people will line up in droves to upload their minds to the machine to the cloud

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_00]: and they will be called and a facsimile a cheap computer knockoff of them will

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_00]: propagate in their place in the machine in the cloud and their spirits and souls will

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_00]: be gone called from this world and only their memories will remain and their experiences will

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_00]: remain and be accessible by the hive mind itself now I've written extensively about this and I've

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_00]: talked about this in my first book because I'm thoroughly convinced that this hive mind that remains

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_00]: this in the automation of artificial intelligence and the combined human experiences of those who've

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_00]: uploaded their consciousness will be but one being at the end of it and this being will almost

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_00]: assuredly be named Lucifer and right now it's these dark occultists who run things at the top of the

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_00]: power structure who are vying for control as to who will be the advent of Lucifer who will be the

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_00]: ultimate one in control at the end now like I said ladies and gentlemen a lot of this is speculation

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_00]: a lot of it is based largely on some evidences that I see from the things I know about what I've

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_00]: read in their occult books plus the things that I've studied about the technologies themselves

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_00]: so there's a lot of context here that could be applied in this way and I know it seems like a

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_00]: a little bit off the beaten path of what we're talking about but it certainly relates

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_00]: because when you realize that these physical things they're talking about the language they're using

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_00]: describing these physical components in alchemy is about a spiritual component or concept of things

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_00]: then you begin to see why much of this becomes overlooked in the modern era and especially

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_00]: in modern occultism and modern occult fraternities they want you to think that alchemy what it's

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: about is transmuting led into gold being able to transform base substances into other base substances

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_00]: threats thinking strictly in the forms of physical material world things

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_00]: and that may be a component of some of the alchemy but it's not the important part of it

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_00]: this spiritual side of it is the important part and it gets overlooked even by many who research these things

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_00]: within the auspices of modern occult fraternities and things like that they overlook

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_00]: the spiritual side of things even though they say that they don't but do they truly understand

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: where all of this is leading right now I don't think they do the inversion principle has been applied

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_00]: across the board in all of what we would call modern occultism it's all twisted and inverted

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's a perversion of some of the original core ideas that worked within the bounds of nature

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_00]: and now it's completely antithetical to the natural order this is the spirit of the antichrist

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_00]: ladies and gentlemen that we are dealing with but at any rate let's go ahead we'll continue reading

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_00]: here from the book well this form of teaching appears naturally to have been adopted by genius

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_00]: from the earliest time its preservation seems due to a corresponding working in the human mind

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_00]: to which all symbolism is addressed it is plain that if a symbolic work finds no echo in the

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_00]: human heart it must perish well for this very reason where such works have been preserved through

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_00]: many ages it affords a fair presumption that their authors have struck a vein of imperishable truth

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_00]: this species of writing is also the most innocent in the world for the reason that while its

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_00]: literal sense is very frequently no sense at all and is therefore harmless it's hidden sense as intended

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_00]: by its author must be equally harmless for if the sense intended does not exist in nature

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_00]: no counterpart is discoverable nothing permanent can come from it well if an echo is readily found

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_00]: the symbolism must be true and all truth is valuable in the case of the alchemists who promised

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_00]: heaps of riches it is admitted that multitudes of men were deluded by the mere literal reading

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_00]: of their works or rather by their own absorbing desire of wealth such men were said by the alchemists

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_00]: to have quote the gold fever which has darkened their senses and quote men holy bent on worldly

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_00]: treasures were rather the dupes of their own passions then deceived by the writings of the alchemists

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_00]: more especially since their writings are full of cautions against this very misunderstanding

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_00]: the riches they promised were the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God and of his grace

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: the alchemists were reformers in their time obligeed indeed to work in secret but nevertheless

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_00]: making their impression upon the public they lived for the most part in an age when an open

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_00]: expression of their opinions would have brought them into conflict with the superstition of

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_00]: the time and thus exposed them to the stake where indeed many of them perished not having been

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_00]: sufficiently guarded in their language and I'm going to pause for a moment here

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_00]: and this is always one of the excuses offered by the secret societies as to why they keep hidden

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_00]: secret knowledge from the masses well they'll claim it's all because of the church age

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and their propensity to burn people at the stake for being heretics if they

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_00]: pronounced something that didn't align with their theology that only goes so far folks

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_00]: you see a lot of these alchemical sciences and a lot of these ideologies predate the church age

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_00]: and they've always kept these things hidden in secret so it's not anything to do with their

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_00]: safety their personal safety in professing these ideas at all there's always been this intention

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_00]: going back as far as we could look to keep hidden certain aspects of knowledge from the masses

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_00]: by a small select group of people these were the old priest kings of past times

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_00]: they kept hidden away some of this secret knowledge you see if you know something somebody else

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_00]: doesn't that gives you an advantage over them and this most certainly was understood by these

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_00]: people of the time these priest kings of past so they wanted to assert their power they wanted

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_00]: to maintain their dominance and their power over others maintain this advantage over the masses

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_00]: so they kept hidden some of these things that were discovered or known and it's always been that way

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_00]: and it shouldn't necessarily be that way but it is so that only goes so far and yes I would say

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_00]: that's one of the reasons in the dark ages and middle ages why many of these ideas were hidden

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_00]: in a secret language of sorts but the language and the idea of secrets predates the church age

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_00]: so that excuse only goes so far but at any rate they carried on their work in secret

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_00]: and this is where in also the inversion principle had been applied you see in times past

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_00]: when you go back to the old original concepts of alchemy in the old called sciences you find

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_00]: that these were known as what is called arcane sciences now what does arcane mean?

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_00]: arcane means the meaning is not readily understood by the average person unless they dig deep

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_00]: and pursue that but it's out in the open and this is a distinction from secret

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_00]: so we have arcane knowledge and secret knowledge now what's been done is this arcane knowledge

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_00]: that was out there in the open for people to discover on their own in their own time at their own pace

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_00]: should they seek to pursue that this notion of arcane knowledge became secret knowledge

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_00]: whereas there was a select small group of people that decided to hoard this knowledge and keep it

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_00]: hidden away from the masses now this is where in the inversion principle was applied

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_00]: in the ancient past so you have arcane knowledge and some will still argue that this stuff is out there

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_00]: it's open for interpretation you can find it I think that may be the case now with the

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_00]: internet age now it's out there you can find it you can study it and pursue it and find the true

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_00]: root meanings and cores of things whereas in times passed up until about 15 years ago or so

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_00]: much of this was came through the filter of the secret society groups and you weren't able to access

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_00]: it now this is the difference between secret knowledge and arcane knowledge they took this old arcane

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_00]: and they hid it away made it secret so that not everybody could access it or pursue the study

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_00]: there of and this is where the distinction lies in it now so at any rate I just wanted to make

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_00]: those points before we continue but let's go ahead and continue now they were religious men when

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_00]: the spirit of religion was buried in forms and ceremonies and when the priest would have

[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_00]: armed itself with the civil power to put down all opposition and suppress all freedom intellectual

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_00]: civil moral and religious it was in that midnight of darkness that a light from heaven as it

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_00]: seemed was treated of in books for the initiated as the elixir of life the water of life

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_00]: the universal medicine and the philosopher's stone the volumes in which this thought of the time

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_00]: was enshrined were written in symbolic form to hide the subject from the crowd not in a condition

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_00]: to profit by it and to screen the authors from persecution they are now measureably forgotten

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and the occasion of them having passed away will never be revived and studied on their own account

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_00]: but they yet exist for us and for future times as marvelous skeletons where maybe found a

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_00]: indentevidence is that there were giants in those days though they made but little show in the

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_00]: world living as they did in retirement upon the still small voice where inlay chiefly there's

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_00]: so much talk of secret in reading their works with a knowledge of the historical position

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_00]: of the writers one is strongly reminded of the query of Sir Thomas Brown who knows says he whether

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_00]: better men have not been forgotten then stand recorded in the book of time who nevertheless may be

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_00]: registered in the book of God I have examined a great many alchemical works at a time of life

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_00]: and under circumstances when the imagination if it ever deceived me has yielded its plumage

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_00]: and I feel entirely able as I am certainly willing to see things as they are, I therefore say

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_00]: after much study and deliberation that the works of the genuine alchemists excluding those of

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_00]: ignorant imitators and mischievous impostors are all essentially religious and that the best external

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_00]: assistance for their interpretation may be found in a study of the holy scriptures and chiefly

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_00]: in the new testament that light which was before the light being by no means and on no account

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_00]: over looked and I'm going to pause for a moment here folks genuine alchemists this is a huge

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_00]: distinction to be made as well the true alchemists of old they didn't have these grandiose schemes

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_00]: behind the things they did what they had was they had an inherent understanding of the natural

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_00]: order of things and the spiritual components that related to it and they tried to apply these towards

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_00]: the good in their lives and it was largely a religious endeavor you will find many of the true

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_00]: alchemists of old were very very spiritual men very much God fearing men who would pray

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_00]: before they would perform an alchemical procedure and oftentimes they applied this alchemy towards

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_00]: the healing of others you see not all of this stuff has always been bad it's the misamplication

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_00]: of it in the modern era that has come about largely those people who pursue these studies they

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_00]: pursue them for the wrong reasons and they mis apply them for their own greedy reasons that

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_00]: that's why we have at the top most levels of the power structure today these darker cultists

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_00]: who run things in this world they've misused this alchemy for their own further rins

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_00]: they're seeking all the wrong things they want the benefits of what is described in the

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_00]: language of alchemy they want these actual physical things they want wealth fame,

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_00]: fortune, power, over others they want immortality for themselves they're seeking after this

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_00]: philosophers stone but they're going about it in the wrong way they're looking for

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_00]: the physical material world manifestation of this and that's not what it's about

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_00]: not at all they've missed the point they've misconstrued the allegory being presented to them

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_00]: and they've pursued worldly power they've pursued things of this world

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_00]: those not the Bible inform us that his kingdom is not of this world but the misapplication

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_00]: of the old cult and alchemical sciences is all about this worldly game and that's not what the

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_00]: intention was it's the misapplication the inversion principle and via large today those who would claim

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_00]: be alchemists are not they're these darker cultists who run things as I like to call them

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_00]: that's who they are and we can't overlook the importance of alchemy the natural sciences

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_00]: but these things have been misconstrued and misappropriated in the modern era

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_00]: and our modern science will take the stance of discrediting or debunking these things

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_00]: when it simply cannot because there's spiritual truths at the core of it but see it doesn't

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_00]: recognize the spiritual component therefore it doesn't have to deal with the spiritual component

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_00]: therefore they tell you it's a logical fantasy to even speak of the spiritual component because

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_00]: you can't prove nor disprove it because it's not something that can be easily measured or quantified

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_00]: that's the problem they have with it it's subjective it's experiential and they disregard it

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_00]: they completely disregard it but let's continue there was no doubt in abundance of imposteres who played

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_00]: upon the cradule of the and cupidity of the public but the genuine alchemists were religious men

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_00]: who passed their time in legitimate pursuits earning an honest subsistence and in religious

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_00]: contemplations studying how to realize in themselves the union of the divine and human nature

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_00]: expressed in man by an enlightened submission to God's will and they thought out and published

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_00]: after a manner of their own a method of attaining or entering upon this state as the only rest

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_00]: of the soul the following little poem and merely admirably shadows the life of the adeps

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_00]: such to reach and then it gives a little poem here folks which i'm not going to read for time

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_00]: sake but it is a nice poem that does convey some truths in the form of poetic stance here

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_00]: but let's read on the philosophers says flammel have a garden where the sun as well morning

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_00]: as evening remains with a most sweet dew without ceasing with which it is moistened whose earth

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_00]: brings forth trees and fruits which are transplanted thither which also receive nourishment from

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_00]: the pleasant meadows and this is done daily in there they are corroborated and quickened

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_00]: without ever fading and this more in one year than in a thousand where the cold affects them and quote

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_00]: let an idea of the i-lard garden gleam upon the soul as an attainable object and the

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_00]: experience of that idea will explain much of the literature of past ages especially such poems as

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_00]: the remount of the rose translated by choucer it may afford a hint in explanation of those love tales

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_00]: the abuse of which style of writing brought out servantess and indeed the large class of poems as

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_00]: well as tales excluding the base imitations the counterfeit coin known as the love literature

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_00]: of the Middle Ages will find their interpretation in that idea including the sonets and the triumphs

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_00]: of petrarch and even the divina comedia itself an apias for a moment here folks so now

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_00]: the claim is being made that many of these literary classics as we would look at them today are just

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_00]: a type of imitation of some of the old alchemical ways of thinking the old alchemical language

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_00]: used to convey ideas the story telling aspect of it the law of allegory that's what mythology is

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_00]: that's what a lot of these things are even our stories in the the middle periods here that come from

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_00]: these times things like Shakespeare it can all be applied in the same way as myth representation can

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_00]: their stories that convey ideas that are very hard to communicate in mere words

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and sometimes you can understand the story better than you can understand a straight up

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_00]: statement of things there's a lot of nuance of meaning hidden within a story there's a lot

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_00]: of things layers of symbology inherent in the stories and these harkin upon the human mind in ways

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_00]: on an unconscious level that we could barely conceive of on a conscious level so that's what's

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_00]: important here so they're making the point that even some of the later writings harkin back to some

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_00]: these old alchemical concepts and certainly they do let's read on if to yearn for such a life

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_00]: was folly and is judged incompatible with the practical demands upon man living under the so-called

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_00]: curse of labor it was at least an innocent folly with which the world has never been overburdened

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_00]: and the few who found or thought they found their rest in that Eden may be pardoned by those who

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_00]: were in what they call a bore enlightened age even to seek it had a charm which smoothed the

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_00]: hardest external fate as undoubtedly it supported many while suffering in the flames lighted by

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_00]: the inquisition and I'm going to pause for a moment here folks just to point out that one of the

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_00]: important facets of this has always been in this still today this yearning of mankind

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_00]: for this reaffirmation of what they term in the occult schools as the golden age

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_00]: the idyllic garden of Eden state in which man lives the paradise it's yearning after this

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_00]: this is inherent in the souls of man we seek this we want to get back to that state of innocence

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_00]: and that is one of the core concepts at the heart of all of this they know full well

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_00]: that man yearns for this and the only thing that can fill that void in man's soul is a connection

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_00]: with God connection with God but man will try to fill that void in a myriad of different ways

[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_00]: and it could never ever be filled properly outside of a connection with God your creator

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_00]: that's the harsh truth of all of it you see it's an unquenchable thirst the only

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_00]: thing that can quench that thirst is the living water as described by the Bible and that is your

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_00]: connection to God your relationship with God your individual one-on-one relationship with God it's not

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_00]: about religions or religious practice or anything like that it's a connection with God a one-on-one

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_00]: relationship with God that's the important aspect of this and that's what is one of the universal

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_00]: truths that underlies all of this if you don't have that connection then very much you're going to be

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_00]: looking in all the wrong places and you're going to do all the wrong things to try to fill that void

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_00]: in your soul and it can't be done outside of this connection to God now many people fall into

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_00]: that trap and they seek out this no-sis or this knowledge base to fill that void and they find

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_00]: that they're never satisfied they always want more and I would say that's probably true for those

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_00]: people in positions of power in this world these dark occultists who run things they always

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_00]: want more they earn for more and they're never satisfied because they have that void within their

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_00]: soul that they're seeking to fill with all the wrong things and they're not going to find

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_00]: satisfaction in that way so that being the case we have all of this we have all of this

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_00]: knowledge base that's been passed down by the alchemists in the language of symbology and they

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_00]: misconstrue these things and reach for something that's unattainable by them themselves

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and they can't get there and yet they try and they think that their fruition of this quest for

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_00]: pothiosis is just around the corner they want to become God they don't want to have a relationship with

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_00]: God they want to be God that's where the distinction lies and their misled because they think

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_00]: they could achieve this they can't so it's a lie it's the great lie from the Garden of Eden now a lot

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_00]: of this harkens back to this notion that we want to go back to this golden age to this idyllic

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Garden of Eden state this state of perfect innocence and connection with God and the problem is

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_00]: they go about it in the wrong way because they've inverted everything let's read on here

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_00]: but as I have elsewhere said that life is like an art which must be sought if sought at all for

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_00]: itself and not for its rewards admission into the gardens of the hisparides is accorded only to

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_00]: those whose dreams are exclusively upon the beauty of the presiding queen for and the reader may ponder on

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_00]: this principle the success is contained in the dream itself and is developed from it just as every

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_00]: desire contains an essence of its own which works itself into manifestation whether it be good or

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_00]: whether it be evil but its quality is not to be estimated by what it accomplishes outwardly but by

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_00]: it deposits that is to use the language of alchemy by the salt it leaves in the soul where it originates

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_00]: and I'm going to pause for a moment here so now this is a very deep philosophical thought

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_00]: that we are given here it's not about what it accomplishes outwardly it's about what it

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: deposits into the soul this is an important thing to keep in mind and this is something where

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_00]: in the materialists of this world lose sight of all of it because this is a spiritual concept

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_00]: this is not something related to this world so it's not about leaving an outward sign

[01:02:13] [SPEAKER_00]: an outward accomplishment relating to your dreams or your images that you perceive for yourself

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_00]: and for this world it's about the impression it leaves on your soul and on the souls of others

[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_00]: it's all about relationships folks that's all that matters in this world relationships it's not

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_00]: fame not about fortune not about all of the things you can acquire not about materiality at all

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_00]: it's about the impressions that you leave in the hearts and minds of others and of yourself

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and your connection with God and doing right in the eyes of the creator that's what it's about

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_00]: let's read on here I think proper to add that my original design in preparing these remarks was

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: simply to express a mirror opinion and supported by a few citations from the works on alchemy

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and I thought a small pamphlet would answer this purpose I have unexpectedly exceeded the size of

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_00]: pamphlet and find it necessary to go to press in a book form though I did not aspire to write a book

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_00]: but although my appearance must be more formal than I intended I desire to say that nothing original

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_00]: is coming from myself need be looked for in the volume whatever interest the work may have will be

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_00]: due to the class of men I have written about who have furnished me with materials and especially

[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_00]: with extracts from their own writings which I have been obliged to use freely in support of a

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: simple opinion in regard to their labor's and studies this opinion I am very sure has some novelty

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_00]: to the present generation and if well-founded must then have some interest though it may

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_00]: command itself principally to speculative men who delight in a study but little regarded in our

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: practical age but neither steam power nor telegraphs with all their admitted wonders themselves

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_00]: the product of the human mind can ever destroy in man the tendency to search into the arcana

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: of his own sublime and all but infinite nature in whose heart as we read in the holy scriptures

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: God half set the world and that signed E.A. H. St. Louis Missouri January 1857

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and I'm gonna pause before we continue on a little ways further here just to state that

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_00]: the philosophers stone folks this notion of the philosopher stone well you only have to search the depth

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: of your heart and soul to know what it's really all about it's a spiritual concept

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: it's not an elixir of health and youth although it is in a spiritual sense but it's been mistrued

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_00]: in physicality and many of the true alchemists know that and although they claim to have been

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_00]: able to produce such things in a physical form do they really convey the meaning that you think they do

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_00]: there's depths of meaning to this there's layers of meanings to this and yes some of these

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_00]: mechanical processes when performed properly with the spiritual component applied can generate a

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_00]: true physical manifestation as well as the spiritual context or component there of but when you

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_00]: misapply these things and are thinking in strictly the physical material world concept of this

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: then you're missing a constituent part of the manifestation process thereof and therefore it's

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: complete it's an incomplete process so there's a lot of true alchemists who have perhaps performed

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_00]: some of these things in the past have performed certain works have made or claimed to have made philosophers

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: stone who have claimed to have made the elixir of youth who claim to have done these things

[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_00]: but in the modern era I would say for the most part the vast majority of those who claim to be

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: alchemists are to be pursuing these things or claim to have made these discoveries are been able

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_00]: to produce these things their misled their misguiding you they're mistricting you

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: these are what you would call the false alchemists and that's what we have today these are the

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_00]: archicoltas who run things in this world they've misapplied some of the concepts

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: they've misconstrued some of the concepts and they continually seek to hone their skills to be

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: able to produce such a thing as the philosopher stone but they all fail because they've missed the whole point

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: that's what it's all about they've missed the entire point because they've disregarded

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_00]: the spiritual side or they've misapplied the spiritual side they've turned to the dark side

[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_00]: or they've completely disregarded the spiritual side that's the problem now there's a mix of

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_00]: both at the topmost levels of the power structure in this world and I don't doubt that there are

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: some good folks out there in high positions that are fighting for the betterment of the masses

[01:08:10] [SPEAKER_00]: but they're small in this organized where as these darker cultists who run things

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_00]: they have an organization and they have a hierarchy and they have more influence and sway than

[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: those who work individually towards the good now I don't doubt that there are good people out there

[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_00]: in high positions working towards the good but like I said the problem is they're not organized

[01:08:40] [SPEAKER_00]: like the dark powers are and that's where in we find a lot of the problems in our society today

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: in our world today the dark sides run in things it's the death cult that's running things

[01:08:56] [SPEAKER_00]: it's not about life and life more abundantly with them it's all about these death-based ideas

[01:09:02] [SPEAKER_00]: it's not about the living water it's about the stagnant water and that's an important concept

[01:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: to keep in mind because this once again is a misapplication of alchemy

[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: future faction it's one of the steps of the alchemical process and it's one

[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_00]: that has been utilized by the dark side in very much a wrong way in this world

[01:09:35] [SPEAKER_00]: because they believe in the process that through the future faction comes forth the regeneration

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and the new birth and that is shown to be a thing in the alchemical process but they focus too much

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_00]: on the future faction on the negrido process on the blackening on these negative destructive

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_00]: aspects of the alchemical process it's unbalanced and it doesn't bring about

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_00]: the great work that they claim that it brings about their great work is different than what

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_00]: the original intention of what was called the great work is and that's the problem

[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_00]: they've focused too heavily on the negative dark side of things in bringing about manifestation

[01:10:23] [SPEAKER_00]: in this world the destructive process there misled let's put it that way they truly believe

[01:10:33] [SPEAKER_00]: that in their hubris they can achieve this apotheosis this state of being if they were just

[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_00]: good enough at performing these tasks in this world applying this knowledge

[01:10:54] [SPEAKER_00]: in certain ways and they think that they're doing this for the greater good many of them think

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_00]: that they're not they're not being honest with themselves they have ulterior motives let's put it

[01:11:11] [SPEAKER_00]: that way let's continue on here and we're gonna finish up some two years ago i printed a small

[01:11:19] [SPEAKER_00]: pamphlet on the subject of alchemy my object being to throw out the idea that which I was strongly

[01:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: impressed that the philosopher stone was a mere symbol and that the alchemists were not in pursuit

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_00]: of gold but of wisdom carefully and conscientiously leaving the latter word undefined

[01:11:37] [SPEAKER_00]: the pamphlet was intended for the eye of my friends and was not published or put on sale

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_00]: though i was not unwilling to have it circulated among the curious who might be likely to book

[01:11:47] [SPEAKER_00]: into the proposition I announced it has been noticed in the west minister review for October 1856

[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_00]: and the decision therein expressed in verse to my view was induced me

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_00]: two fortify my opinions by additional reasons and by citations from alchemical works

[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_00]: when i printed the pamphlet I had read but if you some half a dozen works on alchemy

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: and my opinions were necessarily of a negative kind i did not then or do i now undertake to

[01:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: say precisely what the alchemists sought i was positive however that they were not in pursuit of gold

[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_00]: or worldly honors and i am still of this opinion i thought their object was religious in which

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_00]: i am also fully confirmed by a further examination about chemical works of which i have obtained many

[01:12:35] [SPEAKER_00]: since my pamphlet was printed i feel now somewhat better prepared to express an opinion upon

[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_00]: their real object though i wish to say once and for all that the subject is still one of inquiry

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_00]: with me i will endeavored nonetheless to state that i suppose they really sought or at least

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_00]: the commencement of the work yet i desire not to be considered as enlisting myself to defense of

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: what i regard as the philosophy of those extraordinary writers but first i must say a word of

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_00]: the article in the review there is placed at the head of it the titles of three works if my

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: little pamphlet may be called one the first is that of a french writer Louis fig way entitled alchemy

[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and the alchemists or a historical and critical essay upon her medic philosophy the second is

[01:13:24] [SPEAKER_00]: that of a germ and doctor hermen cop entitled the history of chemistry the third is that of my pamphlet

[01:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: in which i express the opinion that the philosopher stone is a mere symbol signifying something which

[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_00]: could not be expressed openly without incurring the danger of an auto defey the title of the

[01:13:43] [SPEAKER_00]: german work shows that the author must have taken up the subject of alchemy only in its relation

[01:13:48] [SPEAKER_00]: to chemistry as perhaps its precursor which it really was he regarded alchemy from the modern

[01:13:54] [SPEAKER_00]: point of view of chemistry and probably examined alchemical works for the purpose only

[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_00]: of pointing out his opinion of the relation of alchemy to the modern science of chemistry

[01:14:05] [SPEAKER_00]: in the prosecution of such a work therefore it is not to be supposed that the secret of

[01:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: the alchemists if they had one would become recognizable and all that can be expected from doctor

[01:14:16] [SPEAKER_00]: cop in the premises must be secondary and subordinate so far as alchemy is concerned yet i shall

[01:14:23] [SPEAKER_00]: show that even doctor cop though writing professively of chemistry and not of alchemy had some

[01:14:28] [SPEAKER_00]: opinion bordering on the truth in regard to the real object of the latter though he did not

[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_00]: choose to explain it at length because his proper subject chemistry did not require it.

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: past now to mr. figue and it must be observed that the reviewer expresses the opinion very

[01:14:46] [SPEAKER_00]: decidedly that the French writer though he enlarges upon the title of the german author

[01:14:50] [SPEAKER_00]: has nevertheless drawn all of his materials from the laborious germ and comparing him to a

[01:14:56] [SPEAKER_00]: recycled living upon the vitality of the massy germin upon this state of the case as we have no

[01:15:04] [SPEAKER_00]: right to expect a triatis upon alchemy from the german much less can we look for such a triatis in

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the French work but this is not all the writer in the review very candidly and honestly admits

[01:15:16] [SPEAKER_00]: that in the preparation of his article he has depended upon the Frenchman and the german so that what

[01:15:22] [SPEAKER_00]: was not even wine in the original is twice diluted in the west minister review article.

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_00]: In short the writer of the article knows nothing of the alchemy from an examination of their

[01:15:33] [SPEAKER_00]: works and takes his opinions from others from a Frenchman who drew his materials from a german

[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and a german who did not treat of alchemy except incidentally to his subject the history of

[01:15:45] [SPEAKER_00]: chemistry and I'm going to pause for a moment just to point out that this is largely what he's done

[01:15:51] [SPEAKER_00]: in the modern era by those who claim to be journalists they take a secondary source

[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_00]: as fact and they don't go back and look at the primary sources and this is true

[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_00]: in a lot of these occult teachings as well they take the secondary source and they apply that

[01:16:13] [SPEAKER_00]: as the basis for their teachings. They don't go back and look at the primary sources

[01:16:19] [SPEAKER_00]: and therefore they miss a lot or things become misconstrue or observed through only one lens

[01:16:26] [SPEAKER_00]: of observation and inherent meaning is lost. We see this in the news media today we see this in our

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: entertainment today and you can see this in modern occultism if you take the time to go back and find

[01:16:41] [SPEAKER_00]: the source materials the source works you can point out where things have been inverted or transformed

[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_00]: by certain people with certain agendas within these occult fraternities. This is something that I've

[01:16:53] [SPEAKER_00]: done at Nazium. I've gone back, I've looked at things, I found some switch over points where

[01:16:59] [SPEAKER_00]: things begin misconstrued or misapplied for all the wrong reasons in what we would call modern

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: occultism and yet this is what is largely adopted by these people who practice these things

[01:17:12] [SPEAKER_00]: and study these things as truth and it's not from the source material it's not the original intent

[01:17:19] [SPEAKER_00]: it's been inverted so we see that. Nothing further need be said to show that neither the article

[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_00]: in the review nor the French work can furnish any satisfactory information upon the subject of

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_00]: welcoming to refer now more especially to the work of Mr. Figue which is before me I observed that all

[01:17:37] [SPEAKER_00]: this citation from alchemical works to illustrate the alleged extravagance and absurdity of their

[01:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: authors are expressly credited to Dr. Cop in these remarkable words and then it gives the words here

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: in French and I don't speak French so I'm not going to do the this service of trying to read that to you

[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_00]: so he says how could the French author overlook the plain signification of this remarkable passage

[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_00]: in which Dr. Cop says expressly that by considering the world as the microcosm which man represents

[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_00]: it would be easy to interpret the writings of the alchemists or at least the citations

[01:18:10] [SPEAKER_00]: made by himself to exhibit their opinions or a motive procedure but the French writer takes no notice

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_00]: of this admission of the German so honorable in his to his penetration but proceeds immediately to

[01:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: characterize the alchemists as guilty of deplorable aberrations the product of a delirious imagination

[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_00]: the disorders of which exceed all power of analysis so we see how these opinions of alchemy

[01:18:38] [SPEAKER_00]: have been formed in the modern era and we see how there a misapplication

[01:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: misconstruing or misuse of what the original intention was behind a lot of it

[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_00]: and sometimes when they're talking about things like the philosopher stone it may not be

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_00]: a physical object to which they're referring the meaning behind it is not about transmuting

[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_00]: lead in the gold it's all symbolical speech that's the point there are those who knew this

[01:19:09] [SPEAKER_00]: have known this all along and largely what we've been handed in the modern era

[01:19:17] [SPEAKER_00]: is the misinterpretation of these things and we would been taught and we've been

[01:19:24] [SPEAKER_00]: programmed into thinking of these old alchemical thought forms these ways of thinking as being

[01:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: nonsensical to abstract to abstract for our modern scientific paradigm and this is a total

[01:19:39] [SPEAKER_00]: shame because it all has to do with this law of allegory being able to understand that the

[01:19:46] [SPEAKER_00]: object is a symbol that represents something else represents a spiritual idea represents

[01:19:55] [SPEAKER_00]: growth in the human spirit our connection to God and our need to do so to connect to God our creator

[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_00]: have this relationship and it gets overlooked by these people it gets allegorized in the form

[01:20:16] [SPEAKER_00]: of a physical object and stories of this physical object and how it can be used to make something

[01:20:23] [SPEAKER_00]: that is considered worthless into something valuable and this is the true spiritual alchemy

[01:20:30] [SPEAKER_00]: the transforming of man from something that is his animal nature into a more divine nature to this

[01:20:43] [SPEAKER_00]: relationship with God getting to this right relationship with God rather than this separation from God

[01:20:49] [SPEAKER_00]: and a lot of these ideas have been misconstrued throughout the course of time

[01:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: misapplied and people have sought wealth in glory and fame and power of all these things through

[01:21:00] [SPEAKER_00]: the use of these old sciences they've misapplied some things they've inverted some things

[01:21:09] [SPEAKER_00]: and now you have the same people that want to become God themselves who are professing to be able

[01:21:15] [SPEAKER_00]: to do so through this transhumanist singularity that they claim is coming and it's all a lie

[01:21:22] [SPEAKER_00]: folks it's the great lie from the garden of Eden this is not the acquisition of the philosophers

[01:21:29] [SPEAKER_00]: stone as they would like you to think that transhumanist singularity is not going to be

[01:21:39] [SPEAKER_00]: that's the bottom line with all of this so if you take nothing else away from this tonight

[01:21:45] [SPEAKER_00]: remember it's all about relationships and primarily your relationship with God

[01:21:50] [SPEAKER_00]: and that this transhumanist promise that their handing people is not going to come to fruition in

[01:21:58] [SPEAKER_00]: the way they claim this is not the philosopher stone this is not the achievement of the great work

[01:22:04] [SPEAKER_00]: although there are those in the positions of power in this world that very much think that it is

[01:22:10] [SPEAKER_00]: and they are misled that's the bottom line anyway we are out of time for tonight I want to thank

[01:22:17] [SPEAKER_00]: you all for tuning in and I want to remind you that I appreciate each and every one of you

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